Can the Police Order You Out of Your Car?

Can the police order you out of your car? Can the police search your car?

From Lew Rockwell by Steve Silverman of Flex Your Rights:

Steve Silverman, executive director of the nonprofit legal education organization Flex Your Rights, called [Officer] Encinia’s demand [Sandra Bland case] “technically legal but completely unnecessary”, and says that’s “largely a consequence of a bad 1977 supreme court ruling that few people have heard of”.

The case in question, Pennsylvania v Mimms, held that police can legally order stopped motorists out of their cars, describing the request as “at most, a mere inconvenience” which the court said “cannot prevail when balanced against legitimate concerns for the officer’s safety”.

Silverman said this ruling has “contributed to many unnecessary and avoidable escalations where police forcibly remove motorists from their vehicles simply because they talked back or were too afraid to exit”.

So if police ever order you out of your car, step out of the car.

While police generally need a warrant to search you or your property — during a traffic stop, police only need probable cause to legally search your vehicle. Probable cause means police must have some facts or evidence to believe you’re involved in criminal activity.

* * *

Police may order the driver and any passengers out of the vehicle. If this happens, step out of the car. If they have reasonable suspicion to detain you, police may frisk the outside of your clothing to check for weapons, but only if they have a basis for suspecting you’re armed.

If police detain and frisk you, you have the right to clearly state your refusal to consent to the search. For example, you may say “Officer, I’m not resisting. I do not consent to this search.”But you should only verbally refuse. Never physically resist. Just touching an officer could get you tasered or beaten. You could also get a felony charge for assaulting a police officer.

Whether they frisk you or not, police may ask you a series of questions. They will probably include something like “You don’t mind if I have a look in your car?” Beware of that question: It’s the legal loophole that the officer wants to snare you in. (It might even sound like a command, but it’s technically a request.)

In response to such request, you may politely decline by saying “Officer, I know you’re just doing your job, but I don’t consent to searches.” Some officers may use their authority to make you feel obligated to prove your innocence by asking “What do you have to hide?” Don’t fall for such tricks. If necessary, repeat your refusal.

Remember: The 4th Amendment protects your right to refuse search requests, but it doesn’t require police to tell you about your right to refuse. In fact, consenting to searches automatically makes them legal in the eyes of the law. So if you’re pulled over, don’t try to figure out whether or not the officer has probable cause to legally search you. You always have the right to refuse searches.

* * *

Unless you’re detained or arrested, you may terminate the encounter anytime. But don’t wait for the officer to dismiss you. Ask if you’re free to go.

For example, if an officer threatens to call in a K-9 unit if you refuse a search, you should ask“Officer, are you detaining me, or am I free to go?”

Not only can this line can help withdraw you from an encounter, it also deflects any of the officer’s probing questions or threats. So if an officer says “If you cooperate with me, everything will go easy for you.” You may respond by saying either “Officer, I don’t consent to any searches” or “Officer, am I free to go?”

If the officer lets you leave, do so immediately. If the officer’s answer is unclear, or if he asks additional questions, persist by repeating “Officer, am I free to go?” …”

Read the whole article:

The Fastest way through a CPB checkpoint? Watch this guy do his thing.

Police State USA

Welcome to Police State USA. I live on the US/Canadian border, so this is a regular occurrence around here although I haven’t had the pleasure yet. This guy does make some basic mistakes though because while you can refuse consent, you cannot refuse a direct order and not expect to get arrested.

This sort of statist behavior combined with high taxes was the cause of the American Revolution and gave rise to the fourth amendment.

Alan Greenspan Is At It Again: Spewing Drivel

Alan Greenspan

Greenspan spews drivel.

Alan Greenspan is at  it again, spewing the same old drivel: the party line. He cries out about social entitlements, yet neglects to mention the vast amounts spent on corporate welfare and endless (74−134) wars our country is currently engaged in, not to mention the ten to twenty million illegals who reside in the US as well as the 700,000 illegals who enter and stay each year, many of whom receive food stamps, welfare and free healthcare. And congress has also just given Obama the green light to fast-track even more jobs to offshore slave labor — what a guy.

Tip O’ The Day: Do not listen to this man. He was one of the key players in torpedoing Brooksley Born, an act that insured the 2008 financial TBTF crisis.

From CNBC by Jason Pramuk:

While markets hone in on the Federal Reserve‘s monetary policy hints, former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan sees a bigger economic irritant—government spending.

On Wednesday, Greenspan decried a rise in entitlement costs, which he contended have pressured the U.S. economy.

“To me the discussion today shouldn’t even be on monetary policy it should be on how do we constrain this extraordinary rise in entitlements,” he said in a CNBC “Closing Bell” interview, calling the trend “extremely dangerous.”

Social expenditures in the U.S. were 19.2 percent of gross domestic product last year, up from 15.5 percent in 2005 …”

Read whole article.

Cincinnati Police Shooting: Cincinnati Cop shoots Man in Head; Is Indicted for Murder

Ignorant of the law; shielded from the law

Ignorant of the law; shielded from the law

Cincinnati police shooting: Cincinnati police officer Ray Tensing shoots Samuel Dubose in the head during traffic stop after Dubose, who cannot produce a driver’s license, decides to restart his car. Tensing, who apparently forgot he was wearing a body cam, claimed in his police report that Debose tried to run him over but, as the body cam footage clearly shows, this was not the case. The car did not start moving until after Tensing had shot and killed Debose. One more psychopathic, thug cop indicted for murder, but will justice prevail.

The body cam footage runs from 17:49 to 24:15 of this police, news conference tape.

Is the Government Testing Germ warfare on Us? photo essay 120717-F-QT695-001.jpgIs the government testing germ warfare on us? I remember in the early nineteen seventies, 1971 or 1972, driving down Fifth Avenue in NYC and hearing on the car radio that the government was performing germ warfare tests in the subways of New York. I waited over the next few weeks to read or hear more news but it never came. No denials, no retractions, no explanations; it was if it never happened at all. As if whoever had heard it must have been hallucinating, dreaming. But it was no dream.

From Truthstream Media:

U.S. Military Conducted 239 DOCUMENTED Germ Warfare Experiments on Unwitting Citizens in Just 20 Years

Sputnik recently asked, “Is experimenting on people without their knowledge ever acceptable?” noting:

Just a few short years after America signed the Nuremberg Code, the US military conducted a secret bioweapons experiment on the city of San Francisco, without the knowledge of the people. The entire city was infected and one person died. But this wasn’t the only instance. There were at least 239 documented cases…

Two hundred and thirty nine.

There are at least 239 documented cases of the United States military conducting secret germ (bioweapons) warfare experiments on people without their knowledge in just the 20-year period between 1949 and 1969.

If an individual did any of these horrible, horrendous acts, that person would be labeled a terrorist and sentenced to death. What happens when the terror is committed by our own nation’s military?

Here are just a few examples.

In 1950, the Navy sprayed the entire city of San Francisco with an aerosol spray containing several microbes from 43 locations. Fluorescent particles of zinc-cadmium-sulfide were added to the mixture to measure the impact. According to their estimate, nearly all of the city’s 800,000 residents inhaled at least 5,000 particles. One person died.

In 1965, the Army released a bacteria at Washington’s Greyhound bus terminal and National Airport. The result? “More than 130 passengers were exposed to the bacteria and traveled to 39 cities in seven states…” The Army has also released spores in turnpike tunnels and bacteria into subway systems on record. They have sprayed “simulated” germs into the air over military members and their families at several military bases.

These examples are just the tip of the iceberg. A comprehensive list of U.S. government human experimentation horrors can be found here.

Of course the military explains away all of their illegal activities with the magic words “national security.” Do you feel more secure knowing that they have committed, at a minimum, 239 violations of the Nuremberg Code?

The Nuremberg Code was drafted in 1947 to avoid the type of human experimentation committed by Nazis …”

Read whole article.

Shopper Calls 911 to Report Confederate Merchandise

From the Daily Sheeple by Joshua Krause:

‘Shopper Calls 911 to Report Confederate Merchandise’

The politically correct mania over historical symbols has officially reached a fever pitch. Last weekend, a shopper was examining the wares of a vendor at the Redwood County Flea Market in Connecticut. There he found (gasp) Confederate and Nazi memorabilia. So what did he do? He called the cops of course.

He later told the newspapers that “I was shaking and almost vomiting…I had to run. …”

Read the whole article.

Shaking and almost vomiting? Had to run? Holy Jeebers Batman, sounds like a major political correctness triggering event to me. Call 911.

Smoking Could be Banned in Downtown Providence, RI

File:Lewis Hine, Newsies smoking at Skeeter's Branch, St. Louis, 1910.jpgCould Smoking be banned in downtown Providence, RI? Apparently, smokers have been banned from their usual outdoor smoking haunts and dispersed throughout the city. This seems to have upset the relentless anti-smoking establishment more than ever because now the smokers along with their accompanying cigarette smoke and discarded butts are to be found everywhere. The reason for the ban? The usual nonsensical, bogus, second hand smoke is harmful BS, even in wide open spaces, and even though that argument has been thoroughly debunked. As far as the litter from the butts, there’s no need to ban smoking when cigarettes can be field stripped army style — problem solved. But why solve a problem when you can go full force nanny frontal attack, fine and arrest people, and make their lives miserable. But why fight it when you can just go along to get along? Repeat after me: I hear and I obey. Screw that.

You’re in the army now. How to field strip a cigarette:

From the Boston Globe by Vergie Hoban:

‘Could smoking be snuffed out in downtown Providence?’

… In recent months, the strip along Francis Street outside the Providence Place mall has become a de facto smoking section for downtown puffers. First, the city banished smokers from parks. Then, more and more businesses started shooing smokers from their doorways, leaving smokers like Robert Black, who lit up outside the mall on Thursday afternoon, with an ever-shrinking list of places to go.

Now, those remaining haunts may be going up in smoke. A former mayor — no, it’s not Buddy Cianci — wants to ban smoking from all of downtown Providence. And the president of the City Council has said he supports the prohibition.

“They’re sitting on curbs, sitting on steps, standing in the doorways of buildings . . . if it’s warm or cold, that’s what they do,” said former mayor Joseph Paolino, who fancies himself the Providence incarnation of former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg, who championed an array of aggressive public health initiatives. “We have an opportunity in Providence to Bloomberg our downtown. We’re halfway to China — keep going, let’s get it done.”

Some City Council members say the proposed ordinance is an answer to the unexpected consequences that arose after smoking in public parks was banned last year. With a $50 fine over their head, smokers dispersed throughout the city, congregating on sidewalks and outside local businesses.

“Instead of condensing it to certain areas, they’re now throwing butts all over the place,” said Providence City Councilor Terrence Hassett, who co-sponsored the ordinance. “So where it was a little problem before, and an inconvenience to tidy up, it’s become much more vast.”

Paolino, who owns several buildings downtown, said he suggested the legislation to the City Council because of an outpouring of complaints from neighboring businesses and tenants in his building who dodge a gauntlet of secondhand smoke on their way to work.

Smoking is the leading cause of preventable death in the United States, and figures from the Rhode Island Department of Health show that in 2012 — the latest year for which data were available — 17.4 percent of Rhode Island adults smoked.

Paolino said that, ultimately, a downtown-wide ban will “clean up the city and save people’s lives.”

“What we have now is just not attractive, it’s not healthy for people, and it’s not conducive to what we want Providence to be,” Paolino said.

Under the proposal, smoking would be banned on streets and sidewalks throughout downtown …”

Read the whole article.

All Your Kids Belong to Us − the Corrupting of America through Sex Education

All your kids belong to us. The new normal: it’s all about control, mind control, the breaking down of the individual (MKUltra, or North Korean style torture) and the building of the collectivist hive. Huxley’s Brave New World through sex education imprinted with Orwell’s boot on malleable young minds. The school has no problem with teaching kids how to use strap-ons for anal sex, but if you do, you’re a bully. Wooly bully (look it up).

From the Daily Caller by Eric Owens:

‘At Anti-Bullying Conference, Middle Schoolers Learn About Lesbian Strap-On Anal Sex, Fake Testicles’

… Middle school girls from Humboldt [Iowa] (pop.: 4,690) had the opportunity to learn “how to sew fake testicles into their underwear in order to pass themselves off as boys.”

One speaker wore a dress made out of condoms to which could be “used as needed.” Another speaker raised the important middle-school issue of using the Internet to locate an orgy.

A father from Des Moines whose daughter attended the conference described the girl’s experience.

“She thought she was attending this conference to learn how students can be supportive of their homosexual peers,” he explained, according to EAGnews.

“When she got there, it wasn’t really on bullying; it was basically a sexual education class for same-sex couples,” the mad dad said. “It was crude. One presenter told students who asked whether anal sex hurt that, as a lesbian, it really depended on how big the device is that their partner straps on.”

The main, featured speaker, drag performer Miss Coco Peru, cussed a lot and encouraged attendees to vandalize the property of critics.

Peru also sang a song. It went: “People suck. They don’t give a fuck about you. People thrive on smashing our pride to the ground. People that suck, fuck you.”

Still another speaker discussed “how pleasurable it is for gay couples to eat each other’s behinds” and how using flavored oils can improve the taste, notes EAGnews.

* * *

Nate Monson, executive director of Iowa Safe Schools, said parents who worry about middle school kids hearing about anal sex with strap-ons and analingus are “disgusting.” [emphasis mine] …”

Read the whole article.

Every day in every way we’re getting closer and closer to the Utopia Plato warned us against. In this episode of Star Trek, Plato’s Stepchildren, a small group of elites led by Parmen, living in a society based on the hellish utopia of Plato’s “The Republic” shows us what today’s elites have in store for us if only they can get away with it — a new world order. They amuse themselves by forcing the captured crew of the Enterprise to put on a PG rated, of course, live sex show through their power of psychokinesis.


New school: teach the kids how to use strap-ons and eat each other’s butts after spooning on a little jam to make it taste good. Got a problem with that? Then you’re a bully and probably a racist to boot. Booty time, booty time across the USA. Booty time, booty time, hey hey hey.  — Ford Fairlaine

This is what your tax dollars pay for.


Old school, the America I grew up in: Life at full speed and a healthy, total, go f*ck yourself disrespect for authority. You don’t think George Washington swallowed any collectivist crap, now do you? And they didn’t teach kids how to eat each other butts out in school either. But then, I guess once you know how to eat butt, kissing it comes easy: ratchet it up and then back off a quarter turn to the new normal then repeat.  Boy, does that Chris Cornell know how to sing.

Purveyor of PC Jon Stewart Gets a Taste of His Own Medicine

Purveyor of PC (political correctness) Jon Stewart gets a taste of his own medicine. He was quite funny, and dead on, when Bush was president, but after Obama was elected president, he went from satire to hero worship: something that can wear anyone out, and not very funny.

From Vulture by E. Alex Jung:

‘Jon Stewart Told Wyatt Cenac to ‘F*ck Off’ When He Was Challenged About Race’

… Maron asked, “And you got along with Jon?” “Naw,” replied Cenac. While Cenac initially wanted to see Stewart as a father figure, he didn’t get that. What he remembers instead is a moment when Stewart screamed at him in front of the entire staff. “There had, in my experience, never been an explosion like that,” he said.

Read the whole article.

No wonder Stewart is leaving The Daily Show: